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Are there any reasonably plausible alternatives to the process used by our plants on earth (Carbon Dioxide, Chlorophyll, Oxygen) around which an ecosystem could be built in a planet with a completely different atmosphere? Would every planet with life on it need to have a carbon+oxygen based life-cycle or are there any viable alternatives?

To be clear, I'm talking about a Sunlight-powered ecosystem but one where the plants do not use or produce CO2, O2, or both.

If there are any alternatives then are we able to make any guesses as to the appearance or other properties of the plants that might live in that atmosphere?

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Yes, there's an alternative.

Plants using chlorophyll must, to the best of my knowledge, take in CO2 and put out oxygen. So chlorophyll is a no-no. Fortunately, not all photoautotrophs use chlorophyll. A select few use a substance called bacteriochlorophyll (see also here). Here's its structure:

Bacteriochlorophyll

Atoms (vertices) not labeled are carbon atoms.

Bacteriochlorophyll is found in, not surprisingly, bacteria! Certain "green bacteria" contain organelles called chlorosomes. The process looks like this:

Chlorosome

Some of that can be understood from the image; more detail sheds some light on it (pun very much intended).

Much better information can be found here. The photosynthetic process involving bacteriochloropyll can be summarized as: $$\text{carotenoid} \to \text{Bchl c}_{\text{chlorosome}} \to \text{Bchl a}_{\text{baseplate}} \to \text{Bchl a}_{\text{antenna}} \to \text{Bchl}_{\text{reaction center}}$$ What does this mean? Check out this image:

Energy travels first to "cylindrical aggregates of Bchl c and carotenoids" (1), from the carotenoid to the Bchl chlorosome. Then it goes to the baseplate (2) of Bchl. From there, it goes to the antenna proteins (5) and finally the reaction center (6). There is Bchl in both the antenna proteins and the reaction center. Does this make the second image from the top a bit clearer?

Processes using bacteriochlorophyll does not use carbon dioxide, as normal photosynthesis does.

Processes using bacteriochlorophyll are actually a subset of processes of anoxygenic photosynthesis (see also here). Anoyxgenic phoyosynthesis does not produce oxygen (hence "anoxygenic"). Water is not used as an electron donor (an alternative is H2S). This pdf has some very informative diagrams of the process (pages 6 and 7). Here's one (with someone else's notes on it!):

The big issue with using bacteriochlorophyll is that, to the best of scientists' knowledge, only some bacteria use it, not plants. You can probably circumvent this somehow by creating conditions in which normal photosynthesis (i.e. using chlorophyll) is not feasible. Perhaps H2O isn't too plentiful, while H2S is.

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