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Brown Dwarves: Dyson Spheres in disguise?

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Would a Dyson sphere make a red dwarf appear to be a Brown Dwarf? Would it disguise a star enough to misidentify it what size it is? I'm just wondering if it could be possible that some Dyson spheres are out there drifting around, camouflaged like a rather innocuous and innocent star?

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No, you could not. Temperature probably isn't an issue, but a Dyson sphere shouldn't show the proper spectral lines.

The-best case scenario

This site gives the formula for the temperature of a Dyson Sphere as T=(E4πr2ησ)14 where E is the star's energy output, r is the Dyson Sphere's radius, η is the emissivity and σ is the Stefan-Boltzmann constant. The Stefan-Boltzmann law says that the energy output (luminosity, L) of a star is L=4πσR2T4 The energy output is L, so substituting this into the first expression gives T=(4πσR2T44πr2ησ)14 Which is T=(R2T4r2η)14 T=T(R2r2η)14 Wikipedia gives the emissivity of concrete - my Dyson-Sphere-building-material of choice - as 0.91. Let's say the Dyson Sphere has a radius of 1.5 times that of the star. That gives me T=T(1.52×0.91)140.836T Wikipedia and Wikipedia say that a temperature of a red dwarf could be as low as 2300 K, and a brown dwarf could have a temperature of about 1900 K - 0.826 times the temperature of a red dwarf and so in the acceptable range for our Dyson Sphere.

A more realistic radius

A more commonly-used radius is r1 AU - the distance from Earth to the Sun. when substituted in, this gives r=215R and T=0.07T, a much lower value. Interestingly, this fits with previous results. Slysh (1985) looked at things from the perspective of thermodynamic efficiency. The efficiency, ηT, is given by ηT=1TT It should be expected, at best, that ηT0.95, so we get T=0.05T - pretty close to what our result above was.

As Serban Tanasa rightfully pointed out, there are some problems with concrete. Steel or iron would be a better choice. Their emissivities are given here: MaterialEmissivityConcrete0.81Cement0.54Galvanized steel0.88Iron0.87-0.95 Note the lower value for concrete than the one I used above. The difference in values turns out to have little effect. At any rate, if we use iron, and choose the lower limit for η, we get T=0.071T - essentially the same as above.

Let's do some recalculations, using both the derivation from scratch and Slysh's results. We'll use a number of stars: StarSpectral typeT (K)T (K) (via emissivity)T (K) (Slysh)Zeta PuppisO44000028402000Eta AurigaeB3172001220860FomalhautA38590610430Tau BoötisF66360450320SunG25770410290Alpha Centauri BK15260370260Gliese 581M33480250170 Here, I assume r=1 AU and η=0.87.

These temperatures are reasonable values. If we accept a lower temperature limit of 300-400 K for a brown dwarf, Slysh's rule lets us choose stars roughly as hot as the Sun, or hotter. The emissivity calculations let us choose, in general, any star hotter than a red dwarf.

From a temperature perspective alone, there shouldn't be serious issues.

The spectral line problem

There have been questions as to whether or not the emission spectrum of a Dyson Sphere would match that of a brown dwarf. It is certainly the case that the peak wavelengths would match that of a brown dwarf, with the most light radiated in the infrared. In other words, if you looked at a Dyson Sphere and a brown dwarf with an infrared telescope, you would see two similar sources.

If you measured the emission lines, though, you would definitely see different materials in the two objects - there's no way around that. And yes, the radius of the Dyson Sphere would be much larger than that of a red dwarf - so certainly larger than that of a brown dwarf, as pointed out by JDlugosz.

Here are some lines you'd expect to see in a brown dwarf:

  • Lithium[1]
  • Titanium monoxide[2]
  • Ammonia[2]
  • Methane[2]
  • Heavier molecules a la titanium monoxide

Not all of these are necessarily going to be present in a brown dwarf's spectrum, but the absence of all of them in the spectrum of a Dyson sphere is going to raise some red flags. That's you main problem.

Thanks to all those who commented and pointed out inaccuracies and errors; the answer is the better for that.

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